Perverted Justice, Perverts Justice

20 09 2006

The other day Perverted Justice released an announcement, declaring they had decided to harass Pedologues podcaster Rookiee Revolyob for having dared to stand up in public and disagree with them. They slated four corporations that serve the public in their attacks, intending to pressure these corporations into silencing Rookiee by proxy. They have succeeded with one of the four already and are at work hammering against the other three even as I type this.

These corporations are:

Wikipedia and the Wikimedia foundation

Libsyn.org

Cafepress

Blogspot.com/Google.com

Perverted Justice was able to quickly threaten Cafepress into silence by reminding them they were among Cafepress’ largest customers. You can no longer see these threats now because Perverted Justice has removed them in appreciation for Cafepress complying with their demands. Demands that Cafepress complied with after Perverted Justice began holding the company hostage via disabling their store and announcing their intention to remove it permanently unless Cafepress buckled under.

You have included sensitive personal material on your user page which is unacceptable. To put it bluntly, you are playing an ass. You may remove it or accept an indefinite block. —Fred BauderNow they’ve begun to attack Wikipedia, by vandalizing and harassing Rookiee via his User Page. If you head over to Wikipedia now and and click on his User Page, it will come up as blank. Rookiee has been threatened with an “indefinite block” by one Fred Bauder. What is Fred’s problem? Apparently he wishes to punish Rookiee for thoughtcrime! When Rookiee says on his page he wishes he had a boyfriend, why naturally that must mean he’s talking about molestation…right? Despite the fact he’s clearly said on countless occasions he has only had sex with adults. In fact according to one podcast of his I listened to recently, he said his first sexual experience was with…an older man when he himself was nineteen!

The next step in the harassment appears to be complaining about Rookiee’s use of the BoyLove Logo on his User Page. As you may or may not know, Wikipedia prohibits the use of even ‘fair use’ images on User Pages in attempt to walk well within range of copyright laws as interpreted in the United States, where most of their servers are located. That said, as far as I can understand the image is public domain and there would be no real reason for conflict here in the use of the image by Rookiee. I also find the timing of this decision to be unfortunate as it casts doubts on the motivations of the one requesting Rookiee source his right to use the image at a time where he is under attack on multiple fronts. One wonders if this isn’t simply a distraction while Perverted Justice continues to slander Rookiee to the others on their list…

Speaking of others, if you were to head over to Pedologues, where Rookiee has begun discussing these attacks, you’d be astounded by the volume of attacks he’s received in the comments pages. Or maybe not? For those of us who have begun blogging and making use of other media to communicate to the rest of the world we’re not all the same and being Paederotic doesn’t automatically equal rapists, seeing these kinds of trolling are an old hat. Speaking of blogging, one of the things you might notice if you were to visit the Perverted Justice article is how they have managed to take a sideswipe at myself and a few other bloggers.

Other names of blogs on blogspot:
The Ministry of Boylove
Little Girls in my Heart – (A Girl Lover’s Life)
Defending the Paedoerotic
My Pedo Attraction

Still Mad as Hell

I made my bed and I sleep like a baby
With no regrets and I don’t mind sayin’
It’s a sad sad story when a mother will teach her
Daughter that she ought to hate a perfect stranger
And how in the world can the words that I said
Send somebody so over the edge
That they’d write me a letter
Sayin’ that I better shut up and sing
Or my life will be over

Not Ready To Make Nice, Dixie Chicks 2006

This was a mistake guys. I rarely ever discuss PeeJ because I never get into IMs with underage girls (that I know of) and if I have the usual focus of conversation was on anime, fanfiction or other types of media, certainly not sexuality or other such things. While I have always considered the actions of PeeJ to be little more than simple vigilantism and an attempt to disguise their own sexual perversions. Remind me who it is that fits the description of an Internet Predator again– who is it that goes into chat rooms, pretends to be younger than they are, and seeks to entrap others in a compromising position for their own gratification? In any case I’ve left the organization alone in the past for the simple reason I tend to privately consider anyone who is out on IM trying to hook up with an underage partner to be insane. But like what happened with the AZholes from Absolute Zero, if you decide to attack me, I will respond in kind….

How is this not clearly harassment?

How is the vandalism currently going on here any different from what Stephen Colbert tried to pull awhile back? Perverted Justice for political reasons has begun an attack on Mr. Revolyob solely on the basis of his sexual orientation. This is what they do and what Mr. Revolyob is suffering from now. How is this any different than neo-nazis or Ku Klux Klan members harassing a Wikipedia member by reason of their colour or nationality? Or complaining that a Jewish wikipedia editor had links to the Anti-Defamation League? While Mr. Revolyob should probably have documented his permission to use the images on his User Page, I fail to see how this other random and unsubstantiated edits being made here are anything other than outright harassment by Perverted Justice!

Or is this a case of everyone at Wiki being equal, just some others being slightly more equal? I seem to recall this isn’t the first time sexual orientation was used to go outside the established procedures with regard to this person.

User:24.80.170.125|24.80.170.125 09:47, 20 September 2006 (UTC)I*Love*Green*Olives, Defending the Paederotic (Also being slammed in these recent attacks by Perverted Justice)

Oh and before any of the AZholes from AbsoluteZero get all excited, the IP number in my wikipedia comment is not my real one. Sorry to have disappointed you. Ditto to anyone from Perverted Justice.

Who are Perverted Justice?

Well, if crime fighters fight crime and fire fighters
fight fire, what do freedom fighters fight? They never
mention that part to us, do they?

George Carlin

Like I linked to in my comments on Wikipedia, those who run PeeJ have a history of indiscriminate harassment to anyone who disagrees with them. They have also been successful in hiding the truth behind their activities online; they do not seek to help, defend or protect children– they simply like hunting Paedophiles for sport. At first blush this might not seem to be an issue, but consider this: thirty years, maybe even only ten or fifteen years ago the same people who hunt Paedophiles for sport, would have been hunting ‘niggers’ for sport. These are the same ones who continue to attack gay and lesbian youth. They incite violence against people, who in some cases (like Rookiee’s) have broken no laws. Is this type of vigilantism and racketeering the type of behavior we as a society wish to promote?

Racketeering? Yes, certainly! Given that Perverted Justice makes money off their online ‘hacking’ and vigilantism, racketeering is definitely a accurate description! Finally there’s the political aspect of what has been going on. Rookie Revolyob was one of the first to expose the political games being played by Rikijo and John Powers. Their target? Congressman Kucinich. Given that it was Rookiee Revolyob who exposed Power’s pathetic attempt to smear the Congressman on his Libsyn podcast blog, is it any wonder he would be made a target?

It is quite clear Rookiee has made some powerful enemies who would dearly like to see him silenced; the question on people’s minds should be why do these people want to silence him so badly?

What has happened in this country which has made it illegal to discuss ideas?

Why is it considered immoral to merely discuss the laws as they now exist and if they are accomplishing what they were sold as intending to do?

Who will these enemies of public, free speech silence next?

–I*Love*Green*Olives





Paedophilia and the Bible

26 08 2006

Where is Paedophilia mentioned?

Please, tell me!

I’d really love to see it in black and white.

I’ve seen God address many many things in the Bible. I’ve seen it written that clams, oysters, crabs, lobsters, and shrimp are ‘abominations‘ seen God discuss in explict detail the care and cleaning of cum-stains, and chuckled helplessly as God explained the reason why latrines are a good idea. (HINT: no one wants to step in it.) I have sat open mouthed at the explict sexual violence depicted in the allegory of Ezekiel 23 and grinned at the biblical account of God’s plan to ‘moon’ his chosen people in the ‘day of their calamity’ and stood there perplexed as I read how God commanded a man to knowingly marry a whore in complete violation of his own laws.


On the other hand, I’ve also read where Lot gets drunk, has incest with both of his daughters on alternate evenings and for this he is considered a ‘righeteous man‘? Moses in the book of Numbers declares genocide against captives of war and tells the army to kill all the men and women, excepting only the young virginal girls. Later in Deuteronomy more explicit instructions are given, where God makes it clear he sees nothing wrong with making whores out of the captives of war and discarding them when bored of them.

An interesting thing to note about these two instances of scripture is the words used in describing these virgins relates to their way of walking… the way they ‘toddle’ making a clear age distinction here. Look it up, don’t take my word for it (as if anyone would!) get out your Strongs and Naves and check the words used. This is what so many Muslims are referring to when they say Judiasm supports Paedophilia, as well as their pointing to various clarifications of these rules in the Talmud where the age is spelled out as three years old(!) Then there’s the erotic descriptions of the Song of Solomon, where a love affair begins between an older man and a younger girl, evidenced by the way the girl’s brothers comment: “We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts[…]” Should I also add that in the book of Judges Samson’s father-in-law gives away his first wife to a friend and offers him the younger daughter, because she’s nicer looking?

Those few bits aside there is no explict mention of Paedophilia in the Bible. At ALL. In fact you could even say the combination of the passage n Numbers and the passage in Deuteronomy work out towards an endorsement of Nepiophilia… But there is seemingly no mention of this modern scourage that is classified as the ‘worst possible sin’ in the Bible. This horrid evil thing that kills souls gets no mention, and yet God makes the time to talk about how much he hates shellfish and shrimp. God manages to find time to explain how to clean the cum-stains off your clothes in the event of a wet dream, manages to explain he doesn’t like stepping in feces, and tell dirty stories about whoring sisters and their hung like a horse johns, yet He somehow fails to take the time out to talk about Paedophilia???

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” —GandhiLike I said above, I’m not looking to bash God, Christ or the Bible; I’d just like some serious put up or shut up time on this issue. If there is a scripture that specifically addressed the question of paedophilia I have yet to find it and I’ve been searching for it for a long time. Fornication? Why should that even be an issue if I were allowed to marry the girl of my dreams? Considering the ages at which people were married during biblical times I’d think it obvious the reason why there is no mention of Paedophilia is due to it being just another man-made stumbling block. Like women having to wear their hair a certain length and never allowed to go dancing. Or smoking or drinking. Covers used by modern day pharisees who make heavy burdens for others to bear while never making an effort to lift the burdens themselves!

I’m teachable–reasonable answers that fit withing God’s word and are met with two witnesses–but as it stands I’ve begun to lose hope of ever discovering a legitimate reason for Christianity to despise paedophiles as they do. Show me honestly, without word games that God has said Paedophilia is a sin and I will do my best to purge myself of it; as it stands however God seems to have not considered Paedophilia something to get upset over. And given the latest evidence has indicated Mary, mother of Jesus was likely between the ages of 12-15 who are we to argue with what God has so clearly endorsed?

–I*Love*Green*Olives





Ohh, can’t anybody see…

15 08 2006

We’ve got a war to fight
Never found our way
Regardless of what they say

How can it feel, this wrong
From this moment
How can it feel, this wrong

Storm.. in the morning light
I feel
No more can I say
Frozen to myself

I got nobody on my side
And surely that ain’t right
And surely that ain’t right

Ohh, can’t anybody see
We’ve got a war to fight
Never found our way
Regardless of what they say

How can it feel, this wrong
From this moment
How can it feel, this wrong

How can it feel, this wrong
This moment
How can it feel, this wrong

Ohh, can’t anybody see
We’ve got a war to fight
Never found our way
Regardless of what they say

How can it feel, this wrong
From this moment
How can it feel, this wrong
Portishead, Roads

Download and listen here, this is the smallest version of this song I could find, and yes the live performance sounds quite different compared to the album version. IMHO the album on songs better, but at least this way you can match the words with song! 🙂

* * ** * *
They don’t need to actually beat us. They just need to make us believe we’re already beaten, and we’ll quit fighting all on our own. One voice at a time. —Dylan Thomas
In the last two months has been quite a ride in the GLer community, especially so over at GirlChat, where the Save the Children donation fiasco has continued to rage on now for several weeks, even months! In that time we’ve had numerous new faces join the community and an unbelievable firestorm of controversy surrounding the departure of one of the community’s more highlighted figures. This has helped to somehow blind many of us to some of the more important changes in United States law which has occurred in that time. While the community has spent the past weeks engaged in gleeful infighting and purging we’ve had our enemies at the gates just as cheerfully sniping at us one by one…

In case anyone is still unclear as to what it is I refer to, wonder no more–it is of the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act of 2006, a sweeping legislation signed into law by President George W. Bush which will have adverse impact on everyone’s quality of life, much as the Patriot Act has had unforeseen consequences to many who supported it at the time. This new law could result in thousands of innocent people seeing jail time thanks to provisions like the one extending the statute of limitations, hundreds more innocent people could be harassed thanks to the new registration of sex offenders’ places of employment, and ironically enough may result in more harm to the very same children the law pledges to protect thanks to new prosecutorial discretion in sentencing children as adults!

I strongly suggest that everyone, Paederotic or not read the text of the law and if directly effected contact their lawyers to see exactly how these changes effect them. I recommend especially anyone whose religious beliefs are non-standard to investigate SEC. 131, the Immunity For Good Faith Conduct clause, which will remove any liability if some government official decides he or she doesn’t like your ideas of right or wrong and removes your children from your home. There is no recourse for you in that case. If you are suspected you will be treated as guilty until proven innocent with no recourse for your suffering later.

[..]
We have succeeded in silencing another pedophile. Because that is our goal here at Absolute Zero:
Inform
Expose
Silence

–Sues, hate group member

Stand up and be counted now, or by the time you are forced against the wall there will be none willing to speak for you. Consider all of you antis and bystanders who have been watching for ‘entertainment’ purposes as these debates rage on, where will you stand when the time comes and these laws are applied against you? Everyone else, please check out the post made by Absolutely Nothing’s newest member. He (she?) seems to have alot to say and Rookie’s PSA is certainly worth considering in light of these newer and more draconian laws being passed everyday…

–I*Love*Green*Olives





Sequence: Offense, Defense, Nonce-Sense…

20 06 2006

After making my last post and seeing some of the horrible filth being posted in the comments, I had to take action. I didn’t like some of the insults being tossed around by various posters, especially ones who apparently hadn’t considered it a prerequisite to actually read my post before commenting. Then again maybe they felt it wasn’t something they had to read through, given most of what was published was their words placed in context– they had already said or heard them once, why re-read? I am heartened by the way they felt ashamed enough to remove their words later, so perhaps that’s a start? Still my biggest concern lay with those who came in and posted repetitively threats and allusions to sadism and other deviant activities.

After warning the worst of these and asking nicely the ones who were being offended and abused the most to hold off on their anger I sent off a message to blogger.com asking for succor based on the rampant and blantant violations of the TOS by Absolute Zero members.

Dear Blogger.com,

“[..P]lease follow his link and flag him for offensive content. You might want to flag all of his favourites as well, they are all offensive. The more people who flag a blog, the sooner it comes to the attention of blogger.”

I made an exhaustive blog post after being informed that a blog site was being created to advocate the discrimination of people by orientation. I was also told that they had begun a campaign of asking people to flag all the blogs bookmarked in a friend’s blog site. My link was one of them.In the course of researching the situation (see my blog post for details) I discovered the person who began this campaign of harassment had hidden her report button. Feeling this was unfair I immediately hid my navbar to prevent people reporting me simply because of my associations. Since then I have had members of ‘Absolute Zero’ posting threatening messages to the blog and generally refusing to *contribute* to the discussion other than by bashing people and attempting to hack their IP addresses for harassment purposes.
“[..C]omment moderation is the only course you have Blogger TOS please you are amatures tell ya what OLIVE FREAK[…]”

I have avoided deleting their abusive comments on sight because that would end any chances for intelligent discussion on the Paedophile hysteria. I sincerely think we as a society NEED to be able to discuss these things or the subject will only continue to fester hidden in a closet marked ‘Pay no Attention to Daddy’ and the situation will only get worse. I ask that since I am not violating the spirit of the TOS agreement you please take action on the threats and hate coming from hellpig.

Thank you!

–I*Love*Green*Olives

PS: Since I typed this hellpig has begun trying to masquerade as other other bloggers by changing his user name and user picture. Please help me, this is creating a disruptive presence on my blog and I want it to stop!

In the time since then I’ve been sitting back and waiting as the Absolute Zero people continued to happily take more and more rope to hang themselves with…or so I thought…

Hello,

Thanks for letting us know about this issue.

Unfortunately, it is not currently possible to block comments from particular users or IP addresses. However, please be aware that a blog owner can delete or moderate comments.

Sincerely, The Blogger Team

I couldn’t believe it! This was their idea of enforcing a TOS?? Furthermore, given the text of the email it was quite clear Blogger.com hadn’t given my words or my situation more than the most cursory glance. What did blocking the comments or ip addresses of anyone have to do with anything? I fully understand they likely get thousands of these types of reports every day, but could it hurt someone to read the words I wrote? Clearly illiteracy is a bigger problem than I thought!

Apparently the TOS agreement aside, Blogger.com has no problems with allowing its members to use their accounts to follow people all over their network of blogs threatening people and harassing them simply for existing! Inconceivable! The Absolute Zero trolls have made it more than clear their issues with us have little to do with any actions on the part of paedophiles and everything to do with our thoughts. If we were to go lock ourselves up in a far off place with just food and water away from all human contact they would still be burning up inside with rage because we might be thinking something! Yes, really…our thoughts will somehow pollute the world around us as infect everyone with our Paedophile disease! Oh Noes!!!!!! 111111oneoneone

The human race has one really effective weapon, and that is laughter.Mark Twain

And it is laughter I intend to begin using as my sword. I will continue to make posts about the cultural aspects and will continue my defense of Paedophilia whenever I see it mentioned in the news, but I have recently been offered a place as team member at Absolutely Nothing a new parody blog that will focus on the most extreme actions of Teleiophiles and their disgusting attempts to remake American and International culture conform to their prejudices and feeble minded limitations. Bottom line? This entire situation with the Absolute Zero people has shown me clearer than ever there is Absolutely Nothing to their claims we are sick individuals and a major proof is in their blogs. When they were first started they were filled with comments by both factions, the antis (frothing at the mouth and tossing threats around) and the Paederotics, offering thoughtful feedback and discussion on the issues and the facts. The contrast shows up loud and clear– it is quite easy to discern who has a case or valid argument and who is simply spewing off propaganda and feeding off of emotions. People get bored with and tired of the lack of substance quickly. Besides a small cadre of posters, the AZ blog is almost empty, and given Hellpig’s claims about their member size it seems entirely possible all that goes on at AZ is intellectual masturbation to an ever smaller audience.

Not that it says much given the way Hellpig has made himself at home here. He actually seems to spend more time trolling my blog in the comments than he does on his own blogs, if I were the type to believe all antis are paedophiles in disguise I’d find that pretty interesting. I could probably make hay with his obsession with baseball bats and anal cavities. ..But I won’t say anything of the kind because that would be being rude! 🙂

Hellpig brings up an interesting factor though, I’d like to introduce a new team member to this blog, LGsinmyheart whose offered to help me police the comments section now. I have asked and LGsinmyheart has accepted to keep an eye on things here when I’m doing certain other things–like sleeping! 😛 We will be working out a schedule for monitoring that should hopefully allow this blog to continue without the necessity of comments monitoring (actually comments pre-approval) and also allow us to continue to allow anonymous comments to be posted. I don’t expect people in the comments section to suddenly become little angels or to read our minds in what to and to not post, I simply expect people to be polite in their disagreements. This goes for members of the Paederotic community as well.

Disagreement is acceptable but belligerent insults are not! posting without reading is an insult!

Disagreement is acceptable. Belligerent insults, showing by your posts you have not actually read the blog is not. Drive by posts advising anyone who reads to commit suicide or self mutilation is also not acceptable. Discussing whether or not castration has any affect on sex drive and or orientation is acceptable. Allegations of criminal activity will be removed as soon as it is seen. That includes lurid descriptions of violence against paedophiles as well as the standard definitions of criminal activity used at GirlChat. The latter means no one in the paedophile community should be confused on what will get their words deleted.

For those of you who read here from outside the community please try to understand disagreement is not the issue; being able to disagree politely. Most of the people I know in the Paedophile community have not committed any crimes and likely will never do so. Statistically speaking many many Paedophiles live, breathe and walk amongst us all every day and will continue doing so, living in the toy box until the day they die with no one knowing they were anything more than they seemed. Try to understand the members of the community love children –in every way– not just sexually. We care for and want the best for them, which is why it is so infuriating for us to be constantly compared to and alleged to be like those psychopaths we hear about in the news. We can and in my honest opinion should be able to work together on issues we agree with each other on. I have been saying that from day one and will likely say it long after this post.

So to new friends and acquaintances I say, ‘Welcome!’ to all our enemies I’d apologize for the new rules, (but you really did bring them upon yourselves,) and invite you to stick around for awhile– who knows maybe you’ll learn something?

–I*Love*Green*Olives

UPDATE! More Hellpig info

The Ranando Report had an interesting post about the infamous AZ troll..

You can read the report on Hellpig here.

I don’t know how accurate this informationis, but when I read it all I could think was: Windows ME? No really… WinME? I LOL’ed! ^o^;





Hints Allegations and Things Left Unsaid…

11 06 2006

Something’s going wrong inside of you
Burdens bearing down and seeping through
Well, I don’t want to bleed anymore for you
And I don’t want to breathe any hatred too

Wasting Time, Collective Soul 1994

Over the past 48 hours I have been inundated with hate messages which are comments that pedophiles are attempting to post to my blog.Daydreamer of Oz

She makes such pretty allegations of our ‘hate messages’ in her blog and this prompted her to start Absolute Zero as a counterattack.

It has come to my attention that I am not the only one being bullied by these guys on the net.Daydreamer of Oz

And she wants YOU to join in with her and fight against the ‘bullying’ behavior of my brothers and sisters. Her appeal for help has spread through the blogosphere like wildfire, creating an unbelievable sense of unity as people join in on the digital witch-hunt. Lines of division have nearly disappeared as left joins right in single-minded pursuit of ‘stopping the bullies’ from ‘intimidating’ Daydreamer and the ‘good guys’ are encouraged to join in the fight…
My Stance
[Rookie,] you suggested in your post that perhaps we don’t listen enough to what the anti-pedos have to say. Bull-fucking-shit. We listen to their venom day and night, every single day of the week, every single time we pick up a magazine or watch the latest TV talk show or police drama where they are attacking and misrepresenting us…Dissident

..it has come to my attention that one of our bloggers is being attacked by a group of pedophiles, these people want the rest of us to accept this perversion as if it were a human rights movement.Bushwack

…a blog called Daydreamer of Oz (a well written blog, BTY) that is under attack by pedophiles. Go over and offer some support. You might want to leave a comment letting the world know just what you think of child molesters.Lemuel Calhoon

I have a blog called the Metal Pundit, and I also blog with BigNewsDay. We all support you and will help in whatever way to stop pedophiles.Lefty Metalhead

I found these sicko’s who are listed as friends on debatecrime along with this freak Viamund the Rake after pedophiles started bombarding my daughter with hate mail and of course arguments for their disease. Daydreamer is staying strong in refusing them any voice at all on her blog.Stitches77

As if that were not enough, members of the MAA community have begun to join in chiding and telling us we need to calm down. Most notably we have Rookie Revolyob of Paiderastia and Wikipedia fame posting to GirlChat and his own blog the following comments:

This ain’t cool, people. As much as I might dispise [sic] some of the thinking that goes on in the minds of people who don’t agree with me, I personally always attempt my damndest [sic] to keep my cool and respond patiently and responsibly to whatever a person might say.Rookie

The problem is all this is ‘nonce-sense’ and Rookie has found himself very much taken in by people playing the victim card.

You Have Awakened a Sleeping Giant…

I made my bed and I sleep like a baby
With no regrets and I don’t mind sayin’
It’s a sad sad story when a mother will teach her
Daughter that she ought to hate a perfect stranger
And how in the world can the words that I said
Send somebody so over the edge
That they’d write me a letter
Sayin’ that I better shut up and sing
Or my life will be over

Not Ready To Make Nice, Dixie Chicks 2006

Recently I made a brief post regarding Dutch paedophiles who are hoping to form a political party. A group of paedophile activists found this and immediately began trying to use my blog as a platform to push their agenda please accept us and say we’re ok. When I said this would not happen and began moderating comments, the true trouble began. I was bombarded with emails of many descriptions. These ranged from mere ‘explanations’ of why I am wrong in stating that paedophilia is not acceptable to more threatening and hateful comments.Daydreamer of Oz

So inncocent sounding, isn’t it? ‘I made a post and these people attacked me!!!1 1one’ Only the truth is somewhat different because if you look at what actually happened…

I’m like the coolest person on the planet! I succeeded in provoking Doc enough to get him to follow me over & respond. All hail Daydreamer 😉Daydreamer of Oz

Seeing as how the ‘Doc’ in question is a member in Blogger I surfed over to see what the debate was about…

As far as offending pedophiles goes, what about it? The one in question may not be the most well spoken or rational when it comes to debating these issues, but he has every right to be offended by anyone putting him in the same boat as criminals. Declaring “pedophile” to be synonymous with “child molester” is no different than declaring “heterosexual” to be synonymous with “rapist”. […] Perhaps the most intriguing part of it all is that you posted this hate-group rhetoric on a public blog and really expected nothing but support…
Demosthenes
One of my regular readers responded to my previous post about the abolition of suspended sentences, disagreeing with my argument. Whilst I’m more than happy to be disagreed with (I love nothing more than a vigorous debate), the comment prompted me to reflect on some of the misconceptions that people have in regards to offending and criminality. […] That’s both completely correct and entirely misleading. Of course, you wouldn’t know that if you didn’t read the study yourself.

This result by the BJS is pretty consistently reflected in the sex offender research literature. Zgoba and Simon (2005), doing a seven-year follow up of nearly 500 sex offenders who attended a treatment program in New Jersey found a recidivism rate for sex offenders of 14%, compared to 24% for nonsexual reoffending. Studies which have found much higher rates of recidivism for sex offenders have been found to contain sampling biases which have affected the outcomes of the study (see, for example, Webster, Gartner & Doob, 2006).dr. faustus

The nice thing about linking this is how it shows Daydreamer and her cohorts to be completely disingenuous when they pretend to be ignorant of facts. It is clear here by the discussion she is knowledgeable but chooses to follow the mantra of not wishing to be confused with the facts because her mind is made up!

* Most (90% to 98%) child molesters are “situational offenders” who abuse children because of stress or because they need a “power fix”.

I like how these magic numbers keep popping up. If you are going to state these things as facts, you need to reveal your sources. Until then, this is just your opinion.Daydreamer of Oz

I’ll give you a bone Daydreamer–check the picture here with the graph. It’s a little out of date (2004) and if you know of any thing more recent I’d be thrilled to know where you found it so I can add the link to my posts and update my data. Then see here and here. The information is out there even if most of it is buried in pathology and criminal investigation work. Just like it was once buried when the big targets were homosexuals. Not that I think you need me to tell you this, given how literate you seemed to be on this subject when dueling with the good doctor I’m given to think your claims of ignorance are based more on strategy than actual lack of knowledge. Also I’d like to remind you and my other readers the large percentage of pedophiles do not come into contact with minors sexually at all and are law abiding citizens. The figures used above and the sources indicated are stuck using figures gained from criminal respondents due to the very pedophile panic Daydreamer and her cohorts seek to perpetuate.

Going back to the hows and whys and wherefores of how this all started, Daydreamer made a purposely flamatory post on her blog in which she said in part:

If your stance on this issue is that pedophilia is a sexual orientation, then there’s nothing wrong with this scenario, is there? I can’t get my bp down low enough to write more about it so help me fill in the gaps, people 🙂Daydreamer of Oz

To this plea for ‘help’ in understanding our friend Lepidopterist posted:
I was completely sickened by that web site. People like that do not deserve to breathe. I may be on the opposite end of the political spectrum from you, but all of you have my complete support in taking on these sick #^^%’s —BigNewsDay

Dear Daydreamer,You start your post with an error: pedophilia is not a crime. The orientation of pedophilia is the attraction of adults to minors, not the abuse of them. This is such a common error but ti has to be pointed out for the sake of clarity.

The NVD is certainly a strange party, advocating besides pedophilia public nudity, animal sex and even daytime porn (!)

However, the point in such a party as the NVD is to give the oppressed a voice, as pedophilia – or the attraction some normal adults have to minors – has been misunderstood for too long.

The NVD is not a party with serious hopes of taking control of the Netherlands, a country firmly within the grasp of the Evil Empire but it may take a seat or two.
Furthermore please do not associate pedophiles with any people like murderers or maniacs. This sort of callous insult is what created the NVD in the first place.

Worrying isn’t it?

Instead of taking the opportunity to engage Lepidopterist in an honest discussion when he was answering her request for information, Daydreamer fired back with insults and told him:

Lepidopterist,

Pedophilia is a crime.

There are no normal adults who are attracted to minors.

I will continue to associate pedophiles (as I see from clicking on your link that you are one) with murderers and maniacs because they’ve all got psychological problems that allow them to hurt other people.

You need to seek psychological counselling rather than flaunting your perversion across the net.

Then to add injury to the insults she already tossed out she proceeded to make a new blog post, complaining at the rudeness of someone posting in response to a question she asked. Worse she compounded her earlier insulting language — which Lepidopterist had already requested politely she quit doing — with more of the same and a request for all her readers:Winston Smith A.K.A. Debatecrime [aka] Lepidopterist Lives in [..inaccurate..] is a diseased delusional freak, I never gave you Death threats, I merely stated we are going to play a game of “Pulp Fiction” and you will be playing the GIMP So practice climbing in and out of a small box “Gimp”Hellpig

It takes a hell of a lot of nerve for an admitted pedophile to come to my blog and say that I’m offending him by comparing him to a sexual criminal. […] If you are like me and find this extremely offensive, please follow his link and flag him for offensive content. You might want to flag all of his favourites as well, they are all offensive. The more people who flag a blog, the sooner it comes to the attention of blogger. I am also investigating possible routes of further action.Daydreamer of Oz

If anyone sees any of these types of sites, please click the “Flag” link at the top of the page to let Blogger know that you find web sites promoting the molestation of children offensive.BigNewsDay

It was an understandably incredulous Lepidopterist who went to GirlChat and asked: “What FURTHER ACTION???” The general consensus was Daydreamer would try to report his blog to Blogger– and since Lepidopterist has broken no laws in his blog — Blogger would ignore him. A few of the people on GirlChat posted that they had posted on the board and copied their posts as part of the message they left on the board regarding the discussion. One person asked where Daydreamer’s report box was, then decided to just make a reply to the blog and hope for the best. His reply was also posted at GirlChat. It brings up an interesting question though…

What gives her the right to report others when she has removed that function and is not herself subject to such reporting?

I Have Not Yet Begun to Fight…


Get Up, Stand Up, stand up for your right
Get Up, Stand Up, don’t give up the fight
Get Up, Stand Up. Life is your right
So we can’t give up the fight
Stand up for your right, Lord, Lord
Get Up, Stand Up. Keep on struggling on
Don’t give up the fight

We’re sick and tired of your ism and skism game
Die and go to heaven in Jesus’ name, Lord
We know when we understand
Almighty God is a living man
You can fool some people sometimes
But you can’t fool all the people all the time
So now we see the light
We gonna stand up for our right


Get Up, Stand Up
Bob Marley & Peter Tosh 1973

I can track the url from which visitors enter my blog […] They’re telling all their goons to come over and tell me how crazy and hateful I am. It is becoming increasingly clear that their agenda is to bully, threaten and otherwise attempt to intimidate me into silence.Daydreamer of Oz

Most of these fools are everyday people you see on the street. They are not living some isolated life like most would think. They are out there, everywhere. You might even work with a few of them. That’s what disgusts me. Just knowing that I might acually associate with one and not know it. Pedophiles dare not say what they beleive in public because they know they will get the living shit beat out of them. And rightfully so. So in conclusion, do the world a favor and murder a pedophile.Anonymous

I guess he didn’t like my posting? I only told him we were going to play “Pulp Fiction” and to guess which part he was playing…. Oh then I told him I was going to castrate him when I get to the UKHellpig

Child sex offenders need be shot in the head in town square, period.Malinda777

I personally can’t believe that there are so many pedophiles “coming out” online. How disgusting! Thank God I’m not one of these people; but if I was I would hope I would have the good sense to shoot myself… ‘mary’

You may also find it interesting to note that of all the people I know they’ve harassed, they’ve all been women. Not one man. We are starting a blog to combat these morons so check back with me soon! P.S. I suggest we go with [Anonymous’] idea 😉Daydreamer of Oz

And they wonder why we are offended? This woman and her ilk run around spewing their hate, their incitement to murder, their attempts to censor the speech of others… Oh and for the record we have posted to men in attempts to discuss the issues–all of our posts have disappeared into the black hole known as comments moderation. In fact I’m honestly skeptical that you or your friends have actually gotten any ‘hate email’ because when you attempted to justify the launch of your new hate speech blog: Absolute Zero you had to dip into the messages posted on a forum for pedophiles. Messages quoted out of context usually — because there was no reason why my words had to have been brought into things when you were trying to quote Lepidopterist — and usually relayed in frustration that you and your friends had chosen to slander and wax eloquent about the various methods you could murder innocent people while denying them a opportunity to defend themselves.

It is very easy to be brazen and bold under the cover of anonymity. These people can only pick on an adult when they *believe* there’s no way for the other person to find out who and where they are. […] You know that you’re sick and deranged and that’s why you keep your secret on the net anonymously.Daydreamer of Oz

Pot. Kettle. Black?

Keep in mind that it is not I who started this fight. This whole thing began when you decided to not only demonize an individual but also an entire class of human beings. It was you who made this post inevitible, when you decided to encourage people to report blogs sight unseen the only offense commited was in being born with an orientation they had no control over. Did you choose to be white? A woman? Did you make the choice to be heterosexual? Neither did we choose to be who we are. What right then do you make war against us?

Paedophilia, is an orientation–deny it all you want– and it is not a crime. It is not immoral. There is nothing wrong with an attraction. There is no sin involved in loving someone. In fact it amazes me that a God who took the time to explain in lurid detail why he hates Clams, oysters, crabs, lobsters, and shrimp and yet he is somehow unable to take the time out to discuss pedophilia. At ALL. Perhaps he forgot? I mean the worst sin in the world– it “kills souls” you know– and God just completely manages to forget to say anything about it? Or maybe your confusion is because whenever you define pedophile you always use the words from the psychopath listing?

I don’t know. I do know nature itself conspires against you. Puberty has been coming at an earlier age in nearly all cultures and the trend shows that continuing to be the case. Studies continue to come out that mock your opinions. What else are we to make of the recent news that your life expectancy is largely determined by the age your mother was at birth? That said I don’t expect you or any of your cohorts to change anytime soon and you don’t have to. We Paederotics have learned from the lessons of history all we really have to do is wait you out — you fools! Did you really delude yourselves into thinking it was only about sex? Projection much? While you and your third husband are shopping the children back and forth in between your busy schedules and big screen televisions we’re the ones they’ll turn to. There’s a reason why children continue to turn to those of my community– it’s because we really do care for them and they can sense our sincerity.
my perspective v2.0
and i have a message for you – a message from one of an entire race
of pipers, and it is this:

get rid of your own rats this time. this time around we will not
do it for you, nor will we lead your kids away.

but remember one thing:

if you don’t – your children will follow us of their own accord,
and you will not be able to stop them.

so clean up your act – ok?
AlbertRoss

Honestly its those of you who are so virulently sex-negative that worry me the most! Statistically you’re the most likely of all people to snap and do something unforgivable to ‘your’ children and harm the ones we love. You find us untrustworthy because we refuse to repress ourselves and see ourselves as victims? I find your unhealthy preoccupation with supressing your sex drives and the negative body image problems you posion your progeny with even more disturbing! Scroll back up the page and look at figure 5-2 again. There’s a reason why the vast majority of those who abuse children sexually are parents or other ‘guardian’ figures. It’ss because those of you in that position who have bought into the sick idea you own ‘your’ children are but one step away from using your property for your own selfish gratification.

Can we at long last dispense with the overused, beaten to death, sterotype of Stranger Danger? The fact remains– no matter how much it is attempted silence the truth– the fact remains the biggest dangers to your children are not paedophiles. You know this! The biggest danger to your children are you yourselves. Parents. Uncles. Stepfathers. The self-actualized paedophile is the one who will ask and accept yes and no for an answer. Parents and other authority figures have long been accustomed to simply taking what they want and forcing children to comply with their wishes. In my book that’s a precursor to rape. How DARE you project that on to us! How dare you make us the fall guys for your actions! How DARE you get on your high horses when we respond to provocation and declare us to be once again your convient scapegoats!

–I*Love*Green*Olives (who could go on and on with this subject but has decided to save it for the next post)





Girl Says She Lied; Thanking ‘Angry Momma’

1 06 2006


Jury rules not guilty for man charged with sex with girl, 14

A Summit County Common Pleas jury returned a not guilty verdict this afternoon in the unlawful sexual conduct trial of Galo Sanchez-Pesantes.

The 20-year-old was charged with having sex with a minor, a 14-year-old, in a Jan. 20 incident at her parents’ Norton home.

The eighth-grade girl was jailed 12 days after Judge James E. Murphy ordered her held after she ran away and was not available to testify against her alleged assailant.

She was released from jail when Ohio 9th District Court of Appeals Judge Lynn Slaby said the girl was being illegally held without a hearing.

The girl testified in court on Wednesday. She told the jury she had lied about her age to the defendant.

I’m not sure how much of a win this actually is though, especially now with the spin machine activated–the above is quoted from the Beacon Journal, but take a look at this article, where the girl says she lied about her age and told several conflicting stories about what actually occurred. Also interesting in the second article is the claim it was the girls’ mother who caught the two in the act–and no mention of mom’s boyfriend. I’m also puzzled by how Sanchez-Pesantes apparently knew where the mom’s liquor was unless he was a friend of the family in some way? Not to mention the fact our girl here has apparently gained a lawyer…

I strongly suspect there’s a made for TV movie on this subject soon to come. I also think we’re not getting the full story–but that’s typical in these types of cases, isn’t it? I’m sorry its been so long since I updated the blog and that I’ve only made a small post — I do have longer posts being worked on, I just haven’t been able to finish them. I seem to be blocked at the moment. More will be posted as I can find the time.

–I*Love*Green*Olives

PS: I recently posted on a blog known as Angry Momma‘ thanking her for her hard work in pulling together all the different pedophile blogs and Live Journals in one place and making it easy to find new friends. Somehow she just didn’t seem to appreciate the thanks…some people just don’t understand how to take a compliment. In any case please be sure to stop by Angry Mommas blog every so often to meet new people and discover new blogs–not to mention Angry Momma also seems to be in the child model promotion business and if she keeps on posting new models you may see someone new by way of visiting!

Also, be sure to submit your own blogs and those of others for perusal and hopefully inclusion on the Angry Momma Pedophile blog ring! She’s doing a wonderful service for us (whether she knows it or not) by putting all the great GLer and BLer blogs and site links in one place so we can find them easier! Demosthenes posted a sample post over at GirlChat, which despite being as snarky as hell is the correct tone to take. Do NOT be rude in your comments, just politely thank the woman for her efforts. Thank her for introducing us to new pedo blogs! Tell her how much you appreciate her (unintentional) promotion of child models! Encourage her to blog about your blogs or sites!

She isn’t replying at the moment, according to her other blog she’s been incredibly busy with the memorial day weekend and you won’t see anything for awhile because she has comments moderation on. Oh–you will need a blogger account to post now. She’s disabled anonymous posting for some reason.





Update: Political Prisioner

17 05 2006

Update: Political Prisioner

I’ll try to make a more comprehensive post on this subject later, I’m simply to outraged to do a reasonable post on the subject at the minute…

Mother says 14-year-old safer in jail

At first blush several thoughts come to mind right off, why is Galo Sanchez-Pesantes a twenty year old being the focus of persecution…(err I meant… aww #### it at this point the words are interchangeable! Sometimes OpenOffice.org Writer is smarter than I am when it comes to ‘speeling’ and this is one of them.) Let me try this again.

At first blush several thoughts come to mind right off:

Why is Galo Sanchez-Pesantes a twenty year old being the focus of persecution when the mother claims there is a twenty-six year old boyfriend still out there? Why was the mother silent on the twenty-six year old boyfriend but so desperate to nail this twenty year old Hispanic man she is willing to force her daughter to stay in adult jail?

Supreme Being Judge James Murphy feels comfortable enough to joke about the case?!? From the news article: “Is this the (case) where I effectively kidnapped (a victim)?” Murphy asked as the case was called.

His Holiness the Judge also says the girl is not entitled to a court-appointed lawyer. Because “She’s a witness, not a defendant,” yet when He ordered her to jail May 10, Murphy set the girl’s bond at $500. If she’s not a defendant then what need is there for a Bond?

Also after doing some googling I’ve discovered this isn’t the first time Chief Prosecutor Mary Ann Kovach cared more about ‘winning’ the case than justice and she has in the past fought tooth and nail to keep a man cleared by DNA evidence from being released from prison. This troubles me greatly.

I have much much more to say, but I’m going to stop now before I get so angry I am unable to type clearly. More details on this subject in the post from yesterday…

Thankfulness and Review

This is not the post I’d planned on making.

Having to post an update to the Political Prisoner post pushed this one down in priority. I still want to make a brief post on the subject… I’d intended to make this post a snarky thank you note to well known publicity hound Stacy, from Active Christian Media, who endorses known pervert Bill O’Reilly because there are no “example[s] of a Christian who is dealing with this issue.” The important issue? Eliminating the ability of sex offenders to earn minimum wage working at McDonnalds. This says something about her grasp on Christian morals, I’m sure but am unfortunately not sure what it says, other than perhaps Stacy L. Harp is willing to support whatever agenda gets the most ears to tune into her spam blog so she can hawk the books of her sponsors. Given that half of the sex crimes in certain places are committed by children, I’m sure that her and O’Reilly’s support of eliminating the ability of these children to support themselves is all for the children’s own good. Also ironic is the post currently on the front page about unconditional love and forgiveness. Apparently since Stacy and her followers have decided pedophiles are subhuman, and life unworthy of life– they see no point in worrying about forgiveness for them. Such a loving Christian attitude, it brings to mind the famous Ghandi quote: “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Where is the Love of Christ in His Church? Indeed; you should ask this question!

Yet I digress when I have a serious and pressing issue to bring to the attention of all who read this blog, so I’d simply like to thank Stacy for her wonderful work in rallying the troops. Thanks to her anti-freedom of expression, anti-first-amendment, anti-freepress (remember our Stacy is not a blogger she only writes to get attract enough attention to con you into listening to her advert– I mean podcast) campaign of hate-speech and innuendo– Pedologues was taken down from one part of the Internet and moved to another. She and her allies called it a victory. Those of us in the Paederotic community saw it as a call to arms and responded by creating blog after blog after blog after blog. Thanks to Stacy’s actions I know of at least fourteen new blogs that have gone up, and these are only the ones I know of personally through interaction at various websites. I am constantly stumbling across more every day. You have unleashed the hydra, cut off one head and we will spawn another one to take its place! You and your allies seem to have forgotten the basic rule of human nature; the more you attempt to silence someone, the louder their voices will become! And I needed to take a brief time out here to thank you for your actions. We truly couldn’t have ever done it with out you! Thank you for being the one who inspired us to come out of our shells! =)

–I*Love*Green*Olives